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That is definitely a good one Vdiamond. By the end of the evening, I bet Jackson, Carter, and bin Laden would be singing drinking songs together, arm in arm.

How about bin Laden and the South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone?

Tom Cruise, Trey Parker, and Matt Stone?

Jesus, Trey Parker, and Matt Stone?

Trey Parker, Matt Stone, and their Indian companion?

Hey Vorlon2, I kindly ask you to clarify something for me. Your posts always include the following:

"The enemy is fear. The enemy is ignorance. The enemy is the one who tells you that you must hate that which is different. Because, in the end, that hate will turn on you. And that same hate will destroy you."

I have several questions concerning this. Are fear and ignorance the same thing? If fear is my enemy, should I attack fear or defend myself against it? If ignorance is my enemy, should I attack ignorance or defend myself against it? If I fear that which is a known threat, does that mean I'm ignorant? If I'm ignorant, does that mean I shouldn't fear my enemies?

Your "enemy is fear" and "enemy is ignorance" BS is exactly that....BS.

I thought that I wasnt clear on my questions concerning fear and ignorance and it is clear that my thinking was correct. I based my previous questions concerning fear and ignorance on a false premise presented by Vorlon2, who was quoting someone else.

Fear has never been my enemy and that is why I dont understand the statement, The enemy is fear. Fear is a natural response, whether physical, mental, or emotional, to actual threats or perceived threats, whether they are physical, mental, or emotional, or a combination of the three. Courage is required to overcome fear, no matter the source of fear or its nature. Courage isnt a natural response to fear and must be learned. I suggest that anyone who thinks in terms of having fear as an enemy, instead, learn to have courage as a friend.

The fight or flight response, as mentioned by Liberalnut, requires neither fear nor courage, and it is primal, or natural. The fight or flight response only requires a desperate reaction. Courage requires thought and conviction and the willingness to act on thought and conviction.

Fear is to be embraced with courage, not as an enemy that must be destroyed, but as something that is to be overcome in order to create an environment in which courage can become natural.

Fear does not actively seek to destroy us; however, a true enemy does/true enemies do, actively seek to destroy us. Therefore, in my opinion, fear is only an enemy of those who will not embrace courage.

I thank you for aiding me in clarifying my thinking Liberalnut.


Ignorance is a whole other animal, so to speak, when compared to fear. I dont see ignorance as an enemy, just maybe a few of the ignorant. I suggest a different discussion on ignorance.

Consider the following statement:

The only thing I know is that I dont know anything.

I call it the paradox of true ignorance.

Give me some feedback.

Vorlon2, tell me something I don't already know. Then, lose the flashing face, and put something in your posts with substance. Liberalnut blows you away with substance that can be debated and discussed and Liberalnut also does not resort to flashing faces to attract attention.